MySQL 5.0 standardized join syntax
I am sure the revised / SQL:2003 standardized join syntax in MySQL 5.0 is old news to many out there. My guess is they are in the minority, and most haven't heard a thing about it. Some may have even upgraded only to be frustrated that their queries weren't working as they should any longer. Here's the skinny, taken directly from the MySQL manual.
I would like to applaud MySQL AB on their latest release. Throughout its history, MySQL has been vastly out-gunned in terms of useful features by many other commercial and free databases. It has also taken a great deal of heat on many occasions due to its poor standards conformance in comparison to the other options on the market. With this release, even if they have not completely closed that gap, they have narrowed it by an impressive margin.
I do have a major gripe, however. Whilst the previously mentioned changes improves standards conformance and portability, it breaks a large enough percentage of MySQL-bound applications to warrant serious scrutiny. Apparently MySQL AB has forgotten that not the entire world is open source, and that many of us must every day maintain databases accessed by scripts and applications controlled by a third party or to which the source code is simply not available. This makes it rather impossible for any of us in such a situation to move those databases to servers running 5.0.
In my particular case, I was looking forward to leveraging triggers, stored procedures and views to reduce my administrative burden and deprecate a number of external scripts (hacks) that we use to transform data for use by other applications. The primary application sitting on this database is commercial and Zend encoded, so "fixing" the broken queries is simply not an option. Yes, we have talked to the vendor. I find it hard to believe that I am the only one in this situation.
Seriously now, how hard would it have been to add an option to enable the legacy behavior?
Update: 2/19/2006, offending commit
http://mysql.bkbits.net:8080/mysql-5.0/patch%401.1886.80.1
Beginning with MySQL 5.0.12, natural joins and joins with USING
, including outer join variants, are processed according to the SQL:2003 standard. These changes make MySQL more compliant with standard SQL. However, they can result in different output columns for some joins. Also, some queries that appeared to work correctly in older versions must be rewritten to comply with the standard.
I would like to applaud MySQL AB on their latest release. Throughout its history, MySQL has been vastly out-gunned in terms of useful features by many other commercial and free databases. It has also taken a great deal of heat on many occasions due to its poor standards conformance in comparison to the other options on the market. With this release, even if they have not completely closed that gap, they have narrowed it by an impressive margin.
I do have a major gripe, however. Whilst the previously mentioned changes improves standards conformance and portability, it breaks a large enough percentage of MySQL-bound applications to warrant serious scrutiny. Apparently MySQL AB has forgotten that not the entire world is open source, and that many of us must every day maintain databases accessed by scripts and applications controlled by a third party or to which the source code is simply not available. This makes it rather impossible for any of us in such a situation to move those databases to servers running 5.0.
In my particular case, I was looking forward to leveraging triggers, stored procedures and views to reduce my administrative burden and deprecate a number of external scripts (hacks) that we use to transform data for use by other applications. The primary application sitting on this database is commercial and Zend encoded, so "fixing" the broken queries is simply not an option. Yes, we have talked to the vendor. I find it hard to believe that I am the only one in this situation.
Seriously now, how hard would it have been to add an option to enable the legacy behavior?
Update: 2/19/2006, offending commit
http://mysql.bkbits.net:8080/mysql-5.0/patch%401.1886.80.1